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Persuasive Speech 
18th-Apr-2007 01:58 pm
On Monday I will be giving a persuasive speech to my class trying to convince them to reduce their meat consumption. (telling them to go completely veg would just make them not listen. dont you think?) I'm thinking of discussing the animal cruelty, enviromental and health, benefits of reducing how much meat you eat by just 10% or so. Does anyone have any really good reputable (non-peta) sources that I should check out?

Also, i need to get at least some of them to actually try what I am suggesting, so I'd like to try and get them to try eating some sort of meat replacement type food since most carnivores just wrinkle their noses at tofu and veggieburgers. There is no eating allowed in class, so making something to pass out is out of the question. The only other ideas I had were to get them to go out and  try a BK veggie sandwich, or to send everyone home with something (must be individually wrapped). I googled for bk veggie coupons (they used to put them on morningstar packages) because no college kid is going to turn down free food of any kind, but no luck. Does anyone have any other ideas?
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18th-Apr-2007 09:22 pm (UTC)
At their basest, people are generally selfish. Maybe play up the health benefits first, then go into the animals and environment?

Tout the BK veggie sammitches, and depending on the size of your class, maybe make bags of assorted non-gelatin-y candy?
18th-Apr-2007 10:42 pm (UTC)
At their basest, people are generally selfish. Maybe play up the health benefits first, then go into the animals and environment?

You are so right on. Pre-baby, I taught college speech and rhetoric and this is totally how persuasion succeeds: to get an audience to listen, they want to know what's in it for them. My other suggestion is to combat all counterpoints in the speech as well--people can say meat has been eaten since the beginning of time, etc. As long as you head off the opposition in the back half of the speech--you're golden. :-)

I have no idea about a food item, though. My classes (despite campus policies) were always buffets during speeches. ;-)

Good luck!
19th-Apr-2007 11:17 pm (UTC)
thanks for the tip. i never expected to get a comment from an actual speach instructor! :)


unfortunately, my instructor is big into rules. I already asked him about the food, thing. :/ grrr...


19th-Apr-2007 11:13 pm (UTC)
i was thinking 1. animal rights 2. enviroment 3. health. just because i like to finish strong :)
18th-Apr-2007 09:24 pm (UTC)
the only suggestion i have really, is instead of saying "reduce your meat consumption by 10%", try and say something like... on a typical diet of 3 courses a day, try and make one of those completely vegetarian. i think most people would be able to do this rather than trying to figure out what 10% less meat is.

i don't know where you could find coupons, but i think that probably sending them home with something to eat might be the best bet. maybe something like quiche that you could make a bunch of and cut a bit off for everyone?
but i also think that it might not be completely necessary if you try and point out just how many things they eat that are already vegetarian. this is what sort of surprised me when i switched.
19th-Apr-2007 11:12 pm (UTC)
that is a good suggestion. i had planned on figuring out just how many meals per week equal roughly 10%, i just hadn't done the math yet. :)


unfortunately, if i do pass out veg-friendly food, it can't be homemade and it must be pre-packaged. :/ stupid, but its campus rules. i guess it makes since, in light of recent events. you dont really know what your classmante might be capable of.

i do love the idea of pointing out things they already eat, though.
18th-Apr-2007 10:48 pm (UTC)
I don't know, I don't think anything would work, personally. It'd be like a carnivore persuading me to eat 10% more meat, which I definitely wouldn't do (despite any benefits).
18th-Apr-2007 10:57 pm (UTC)
I would eat 10, 50, or even 100 percent more meat. If you're eating no meat already, 10% more of that wouldn't make a difference. ;)

I think most vegetarians (at least in my country, the U.S.) come from meat-eating families, so something helped persuade them, whether it was a speech, literature, or just meeting a vegetarian, since a personal epiphany out of nowhere would be somewhat rare.
19th-Apr-2007 11:07 pm (UTC)
I would eat 10, 50, or even 100 percent more meat. If you're eating no meat already, 10% more of that wouldn't make a difference. ;)



:)))
19th-Apr-2007 06:23 am (UTC)
well, that'd be assuming carnivores eat nothing *but* meat, which most people don't do...just asking to shift the percentages a bit, that's all.
19th-Apr-2007 06:30 am (UTC)
in a better rephrasing--that's like saying most people are strictly carnivores, when most people are omnivores.
19th-Apr-2007 11:06 pm (UTC)
where is your username from? it sounds so familiar...
20th-Apr-2007 12:52 am (UTC)
it's not from anything
20th-Apr-2007 08:41 pm (UTC)
hm, i guess it's deja vu then
19th-Apr-2007 02:28 am (UTC)
This site might help: http://www.meatout.org/MeatoutMondays/

Try calling or emailing a compay that makes something you like and is readily available to see if they can get you coupons of some sort (explain what you are doing). Maybe Soy Delicious or someplace like that would listen.
19th-Apr-2007 04:52 am (UTC)
IAWTS
19th-Apr-2007 11:05 pm (UTC)
awesome site, thanks!



thats a good idea, though i may be running out of time if they need to mail my something.
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19th-Apr-2007 11:01 pm (UTC)
i personally love bk veggies(or did, i've been on a fast food..fast of sorts and most of it sounds repulsive now), have you tried it in the past year? they used to make one that tasted a lot like tires, but now they use a morning star garden veggie patty. much tastier.

hmm i like the idea for meal ideas, maybe I can find or make some sort of pamphlet/booklet.
19th-Apr-2007 04:56 am (UTC)
I would bet that if you actually went to the local BK and told them you wanted to encourage your classmates to try a veggie burger there, that the manager might just hand some coupons to you as a way to advertise to the local college kids. Point out how it will benefit the profit of the store and I think you might have it made! Along w/the coupon include also some kind of pre-packaged veggie friendly candy. A way to a college kid's heart is through their stomach!
19th-Apr-2007 06:34 am (UTC)
oh! is rice candy vegan? it should definitely be vegetarian...nummmyyyy....
19th-Apr-2007 10:58 pm (UTC)
that's a really good idea. I believe I will be visiting burger king today, thanks!
20th-Apr-2007 03:05 am (UTC)
You can look at the statistics for the US land usage. See the summary and crop land sections at least. You can see that from their survey data, more land is used to grow feed crops in the US than food crops for people (although I suspect there may be some cross-over between the food and feed crops when it comes to corn and soybeans). Also, a majority of agricultural land is set aside as grazing/raising land for livestock.

http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications/EIB14/

Here is this Greenpeace document they tell you that large companies destroy the Amazon to grow soybeans, of which 80% of soybeans are used for feeding livestock.

http://www.greenpeace.org/raw/content/usa/press/reports/eating-up-the-amazon.pdf
20th-Apr-2007 08:36 pm (UTC)
awesome info, thanks!
20th-Apr-2007 04:28 am (UTC)
UN report on how livestock are destroying the environment and contributing to global warming: http://www.fao.org/newsroom/en/news/2006/1000448/index.html
20th-Apr-2007 08:35 pm (UTC)
thank you!
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